Hi All,
1) Does anyone know this “per indirectum” phrase? It seems to suggest and indirect argument (i.e., that because a practice existed among the Carthusians for so long that it is legitimate)
2) I’m struggling with the quoniam nisi and nullo modo clauses
Suadetur per indirectum prima conclusio: quoniam nisi sic liceret
generaliter ordinasse, nullo modo sentiendum est quod per tanti
temporis cursum, scilicet per trecentos annos et amplius, talis fuisset
lex inter ipsos Carthusienses promulgata et servata, inter quos tot
hactenus floruerunt summae religionis et eximiae discretionis viri
in jure civili, canonico et divino non mediocriter instructi. Nequaquam
The first conclusion is recommended through an indirect [argument?]: For unless it was generally lawful to have been established in such a way, [then] it by no means must be declared because through the course of so much time—certainly through 300 years and more—such a law, proclaimed and preserved, had existed among the Carthusians themselves, among whom so many men of the highest religion and extraordinary discretion flourished until now, well-versed in civil, canon, and divine law.
1) Does anyone know this “per indirectum” phrase? It seems to suggest and indirect argument (i.e., that because a practice existed among the Carthusians for so long that it is legitimate)
2) I’m struggling with the quoniam nisi and nullo modo clauses
Suadetur per indirectum prima conclusio: quoniam nisi sic liceret
generaliter ordinasse, nullo modo sentiendum est quod per tanti
temporis cursum, scilicet per trecentos annos et amplius, talis fuisset
lex inter ipsos Carthusienses promulgata et servata, inter quos tot
hactenus floruerunt summae religionis et eximiae discretionis viri
in jure civili, canonico et divino non mediocriter instructi. Nequaquam
The first conclusion is recommended through an indirect [argument?]: For unless it was generally lawful to have been established in such a way, [then] it by no means must be declared because through the course of so much time—certainly through 300 years and more—such a law, proclaimed and preserved, had existed among the Carthusians themselves, among whom so many men of the highest religion and extraordinary discretion flourished until now, well-versed in civil, canon, and divine law.