Si custodiae duriores fortioresque ad casam tuam contendissent

[john abshire]

8. Si custodiae duriores fortioresque ad casam tuam contendissent, heu, numquam tanta scelera suscepisses et hi omnes non occidissent.
If the harsher and braver guards had hastened to your house, ah! Alas! You would never have undertaken so great a crime and all these would not have died.

please help with my translation.
edits in bold red.

 

[Pacifica]

Is there any context to the sentence?

At first sight, I'd say that occidissent is probably from occido (with a short i), occidere, occidi, occasum rather than from occido (with a long i), occidere, occidi, occisum.

In theory, it could also be from the latter and omnes could be the object, but it seems less likely.

 

[john abshire]

Is there any context to the sentence?

At first sight, I'd say that occidissent is probably from occido (with a short i), occidere, occidi, occasum rather than from occido (with a long i), occidere, occidi, occisum.

In theory, it could also be from the latter and omnes could be the object, but it seems less likely.

There is no context. It is one sentence (no.8) of an exercise.
I made the change on my post bold red. It makes more sense now, and it dawned on me the difference (but similarity) between the two verbs. Thanks.
I can see that I could smooth up the sentence, but is it basically correct now?

 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

That depends on how archaic your speech is. Do you normally use the pluperfect indicative in its subjunctive sense in English?

 

[john abshire]

That depends on how archaic your speech is. Do you normally use the pluperfect indicative in its subjunctive sense in English?

You would never have undertaken so great a crime and all these would not have died.
This is my rewrite. Specifically “all these would not have died.”
Is this what you meant?

 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Yes, that's fine.

 

[john abshire]

Yes, that's fine.

Is “would” (“could, or should”?) included in subjunctive verb translation? Generally?

 

[Pacifica]

Often enough, but it depends on context.

 

[cinefactus]

John, can you put the first part of what you want help with in the thread titles, rather than chapter and page number.

 

[john abshire]

John, can you put the first part of what you want help with in the thread titles, rather than chapter and page number.

Yes; I was trying to make a reference for myself, but I can do it the way suggest.

 

[cinefactus]

You can do both