I think that's probably what they were referring to.
For Pacifica - random quotes on Arabic and Qur'an
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In the Arabic construct state, it's "something of something," with the second "something" being in the "genitive" case, the first "something" in whatever case is needed by the syntax, but using definite endings (without the definite article). Some nouns also behave slightly differently when they are the first element in a construct phrase.
Can I ask, does the word "rope" really appear in 2:15?
"Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro)."
15. اللَّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
"Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro)."
15. اللَّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
Also, what the shit is it supposed to mean?
No. What's translated as "give rope" is just this verb.
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Allah will let them sin all they like so that they damn themselves even more. He likes doing that kind of thing. So very merciful, isn't it?
I find the difference between Portuguese and Spanish very surprising actually. I would've expected the numbers to be more or less the same. And I would've expected the Portuguese number to be much higher than the French one, for instance. Although I guess we should make a distinction between everyday words, and words in the dictionary. In terms of everyday speech, I'd be very surprised if Portuguese didn't have much more Arabic words than French. Of course, I could be wrong.
Coincidentally, I was talking about that earlier this week: it's kinda weird that a word for something as common lettuce is of Arabic origins, alface.
Coincidentally, I was talking about that earlier this week: it's kinda weird that a word for something as common lettuce is of Arabic origins, alface.
Not only common, but problably something that has been known in Europe for ages. Maybe the Arabic word simply supplanted the native one.
This map is certainly based on the latter. There's no way I can think of hundreds of Arabic-derived words in English or French; most of them must be obscure terms I've never encountered.
That's not the only example of this, such as azafrán or azul in Spanish. I'm also amused by Greek or Latin words (from antiquity) borrowed into Arabic and then into modern European languages.
Maybe. But I still would find it weird!
Sure, and when I wrote that I thought of the Portuguese word for eggplant for instance, beringela, which is Arabic as well, just like the French equivalent, aubergine. But like saffron, there's at least the possibility that it was discovered by Europeans on the late, hence making a borrowing unsurprising, but lettuce at least seems less exotic. Azul is surprising as well, but on the other hand, names for colors or specific color hues are often borrowed.
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I was under the impression that saffron, like rice, was known to the ancient Romans but under a different name.
Is that a legit expression in English? (I know it is in French.)
Saffron was crocum or crocus (the former usually for the spice and the latter for the plant, I think), and rice was oryza, which sounds like it might have the same origin as "rice" (?)