Aeneid - Book VIII
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vatis fatidicae, cecinit quae prima futuros
Aeneadas magnos et nobile Pallanteum (340-1)
Just an adjective, or futuros esse? Maclennan translates "who was the first to foretell that the sons of Aeneas would be great."
And I'm not sure what Conington/Nettleship mean with "Futuros not to be taken with magnos and nobile. The two things which Carmentis predicted as in the future were the mighty family of Aeneas and the glorious Pallanteum."
Aeneadas magnos et nobile Pallanteum (340-1)
Just an adjective, or futuros esse? Maclennan translates "who was the first to foretell that the sons of Aeneas would be great."
And I'm not sure what Conington/Nettleship mean with "Futuros not to be taken with magnos and nobile. The two things which Carmentis predicted as in the future were the mighty family of Aeneas and the glorious Pallanteum."
Hard to tell.
Presumably they mean that the sentence means that the mighty family of Aeneas and the glorious Pallanteum would exist in the future, rather than that they would be mighty and glorious in the future.
insula Sicanium iuxta latus Aeoliamque
erigitur Liparen fumantibus ardua saxis,
quam subter specus et Cyclopum exesa caminis
antra Aetnaea tonant (416-9)
Definitely worth considering:
And I never thought I'd see the words "hyena's anus" in an Aeneid commentary.
erigitur Liparen fumantibus ardua saxis,
quam subter specus et Cyclopum exesa caminis
antra Aetnaea tonant (416-9)
Definitely worth considering:
And I never thought I'd see the words "hyena's anus" in an Aeneid commentary.
O'Hara's commentary has been decent so far. I like that he (seemingly) isn't relying too much on Page and includes more recent references, but sometimes he lists far too many of them. If this is meant to be a volume for undergraduates (or even high schoolers), they're unlikely to track down many of these books/articles. So it works a lot better when he actually includes quotations from the sources like here:
__________________________nunc viribus usus,
nunc manibus rapidis, omni nunc arte magistra. (441-2)
Adjective or noun here (or as Tarrant put it, attributive or predicative)? Most take it as a noun, so omnis ars is the magistra for the Cyclopes. But Fratantuono and Smith say it's an adjective, so the ars is Vulcan's.
The other use that's cited is from 12 (426-7), where everyone takes it as a noun:
non haec humanis opibus, non arte magistra
proveniunt, neque te, Aenea, mea dextera servat
nunc manibus rapidis, omni nunc arte magistra. (441-2)
Adjective or noun here (or as Tarrant put it, attributive or predicative)? Most take it as a noun, so omnis ars is the magistra for the Cyclopes. But Fratantuono and Smith say it's an adjective, so the ars is Vulcan's.
The other use that's cited is from 12 (426-7), where everyone takes it as a noun:
non haec humanis opibus, non arte magistra
proveniunt, neque te, Aenea, mea dextera servat
If it had just been the two words arte magistra I'm not sure Vergil could even have hoped to be understood in any other way than the usual one for such a construction (viz. with magistra being predicative). But maybe the presence of omni makes a difference?
Not sure about omni. I think another issue of confusion is some commentators are taking the attributive use to have the meaning of "mastercraft". Like in Page's note:
And I forgot to mention Servius' note:
These are the adjectival uses that L&S list. They also consider the use here in 8 as a noun.
And I forgot to mention Servius' note:
But it looks like Servius and F&S are alone in that interpretation.
These are the adjectival uses that L&S list. They also consider the use here in 8 as a noun.
Actius haec cernens arcum intendebat Apollo
desuper; omnis eo terrore Aegyptus et Indi,
omnis Arabs, omnes vertebant terga Sabaei. (704-6)
"Every Egyptian" or "All Egypt"? F&S say the former, Maclennan the latter. I just assumed the former since the other three were also the inhabitants.
desuper; omnis eo terrore Aegyptus et Indi,
omnis Arabs, omnes vertebant terga Sabaei. (704-6)
"Every Egyptian" or "All Egypt"? F&S say the former, Maclennan the latter. I just assumed the former since the other three were also the inhabitants.
Seems reasonable to me.
That seems intuitive and it's actually how I took it at first when I read the line without paying much attention, but then I realized the problem: Aegyptus means "Egypt"; "Egyptian" is Aegyptius. I guess there's a slim chance that we have a here an adjective Aegyptus, a, um unattested elsewhere, but how likely is that?